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Drinking N Fighting
"There's more to life than drinking and fighting."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrinkingNFighting/
(the list yahoo group web space)

http://dnf.slashcity.org/
(the list website)


1. WHAT IS DRINKING N FIGHTING?
Drinking N Fighting is an adult fiction and discussion list for the slash pairing of Chris Larabee and Buck Wilmington. The focus of this list is the Chris/Buck relationship, but feel free to talk about any topic relating to Chris and Buck, or the Magnificent 7 series. Other topics of conversation are welcomed, and while it's nice to tie them back to C/B, we do... digress. The list admin gives brownie points for originality.

List members are strongly encouraged to talk about fiction posted to the list unless otherwise requested by the author. This includes feedback, compliments, useful criticism, offers to beta, challenges, and the like.

2. WHO IS the LIST ADMINISTRATOR?
Charlotte Hill, who can be reached at DrinkingNFighting-owner@yahoogroups.com, or charlottechill@yahoo.com (easier).

3. DO YOU NEED TO SEND AN AGE STATEMENT?
No. This is an adult list and is listed as such. It is your responsibility to know that you are an adult. By subscribing to this list, you are stating that you are legally entitled to read material in it.

4. WHAT IS FROWNED UPON?
Spams, Flames, Unreasonably long .sig files, too much quoted material, file attachments, too many off topic posts. Anything that requires the list admin to take action.

5. WHAT IS SMILED UPON?
Any and all fic, both complete and in-progress, of any rating (including "G" ), that deals with the slash and/or pre-slash relationship between Buck Wilmington and Chris Larabee.

Links and recommendations to other stories that feature Buck or Chris and Buck's relationship (gen, adult, slash, whatever) that folks who love Chris and Buck might like to read.

Announcements from any list members about non-C/B fic they have written and archived elsewhere, including links, because most of us love reading many pairings.

Rhapsodies on Chris and Buck's 12-year relationship, and its survival through the very most difficult of times, and greatest of losses. Conversation about why Buck adopted JD, and how familiar the behavior is to Chris, since Buck no doubt adopted Adam the same way. ;)

Discussion about the good and bad of their relationship, the possible rifts and potential recoveries. Discussion about how damned sexy those two are: tall and dark, smaller and blond; ruggedly handsome and outgoing, whipcord-thin and restrained?

Uh, yeah. Stuff like this.

6. WHAT TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IS NOT ENCOURAGED?
Meta discussions. A meta discussion is when one list member tells another list member how or what they should or shouldn't discuss an actual topic; examples include: "I don't like X. Let's talk about something else?!" or "You shouldn't be so negative -- can't you find anything *nice* to say" or "Criticism should only be constructive," and my favorite, "I'm not upset by *what* you said; it's the way you said it..." While all of these are valid conversations, they're probably better suited for private discussion between affected parties.

Discussion about real people. If you want to talk RPS, you're on the wrong list. Enough said.

Argument about list policies. If you have any objections, concerns, or suggestions please write the list administrator off list. Your arguments will be given due consideration and if you're convincing a change in policy will occur.

Note that all of these things have probably been discussed on list at least once, and may be again. If they become the focus of the list, you may be asked to reduce or eliminate your posts on that topic.

7. WHAT ABOUT OFF TOPIC POSTS?
If it's not about Chris/Buck, or The Magnificent 7, or it can't be tied back to Chris/Buck and The Magnificent 7, it's an off topic post. Off topic posts are reluctantly permitted right now; however, if they become too common, this policy will change. Please mark them with OT in the subject line.

8. WHAT'S THE POLICY ON FLAMING?
Flaming is not permitted on this list. It upsets people then they start complaining to the moderator, which upsets the moderator. The moderator is the final judge of what constitutes a flame. Please do not complain to the moderator that you have been flamed off list. The moderator, while she may have a modicum of prurient interest, is not the fandom police and has neither the authority nor the desire to try to sway people's private e-mail.

A simple rule of thumb about flaming: if you're badmouthing anything that's alive (i.e. a person), you could be flaming. If you're badmouthing a live person's opinion, or an inanimate object (i.e. a story), you're probably not flaming. If you're badmouthing anything fictional (i.e. I hate Buck's mustache) you may inspiring a great argument, but you're not flaming.

Good: "your opinion is totally wrong in my opinion! Are we watching the same show, lol?"

Bad: "you suck! You're crazy, I can't believe you even said something as dumb-ass as that!"

9. WHAT FICTION CAN BE POSTED ON DRINKING N FIGHTING?
All stories and pairings are welcomed as long as the primary relationship is between Chris and Buck and the other relationships in the story do not overshadow the Chris/Buck pairing. Use your common sense and if you have any questions, ask the moderator. Keep in mind this is a SLASH LIST. While pre-slash is welcomed and encouraged, if it's entirely gen or het, please post the url link for folks rather than posting the story directly.

10. WHAT FICTION IS NOT PERMITTED ON DRINKING N FIGHTING?
Stories with underage participants in graphic sexual activities and real people slash.

11. WHAT ARE YOUR FICTION POSTING GUIDELINES?
When posting a story an author should include a zero posting or post individual headers with each part of the story as it is posted to the list. Please consider including the following information, and definitely include all asterisked items:

1) *TITLE

2) *AUTHOR:

3) *AUTHOR'S E-MAIL:

4) AUTHOR'S WEBSITE:

5) FEEDBACK: (If you don't state your preference, it will be assumed
that it's okay to provide feedback on list.)

6) *ARCHIVE: (the default for stories posted or announced on DNF is YES, to the DNF archive)

7) *UNIVERSE (OW, Two-Blood, etc):

8) UNIVERSE STATUS (Open, Closed, Conditional) (Conditional should be used sparingly, and it should be remembered that "conditional" is often in the eye of the beholder.)

9) CATEGORY: Angst / BDSM / Drama / Established Relationship / First Time / Humor / Hurt-Comfort / PWP / Non-Consensual / Romance / Episode Related / Pre-Slash. See http://dnf.slashcity.org for other possible listings.

10) *STATUS: new, repost, complete, WIP, series, etc.

11) *RATING: (see below for rating guideline)

12) PAIRING: (Other pairings are welcomed as long as the primary focus is the relationship between Chris and Buck. Please include the pairings if your story includes other pairings besides Chris/Buck.)

13) SUMMARY:

14) AUTHOR'S NOTES:

15) DISCLAIMER:

16) WARNINGS:

For your convenience Ellie Graves created two header templates: barebones_header.txt and kitchensink_header.txt. Just cut and paste then fill in the information. They can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrinkingNFighting/files/

12. WHY AREN'T WARNINGS OBLIGATORY?
The Moderator considers warnings to be a courtesy, not an obligation. If you are easily squicked, DON'T READ ANY STORIES WITHOUT ASKING SOMEONE ABOUT THEM FIRST, especially if the story contains no warnings. We're all adults here and it is our personal responsibility to make our own choices--about using warnings, and/or about heeding them... or heeding their absence.

13. OPEN, CLOSED, CONDITIONAL? WHAT IS THAT?
1) OPEN - open to everyone and anything

2) CONDITIONAL - author permits writers to have a crack at it, but requests that certain parameters or rules of the universe/story be adhered to - this request may not be honored, beware

3) CLOSED - only the author can write

14. WHAT ARE YOUR RATING GUIDELINES?
See the Fan Rating System at the DnF archive (http://dnf.slashcity.org) for details.

15. LINKS?
If you have a website that contains Chris/Buck stories, please bookmark it in the Links section, so your fellow list members can find it.

16. WHAT ARE YOUR PHOTO UPLOAD POLICIES?
Upload any photos you are willing to share with your sister list members to the photo area. Unless there's some kind of specific exemption you need to claim, you should consider that your pic might be used, manipulated by anyone and posted or used elsewhere without asking your permission.

16. WHAT ABOUT THE FILE SECTION? ARE THERE ANY GUIDELINES TO UPLOADING FILES?
Nope. Try to keep files relevant and please don't upload photos to the file section. That's what the photo section is for.

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